Hi 4Coder!! I learned of your editor from watching Tom Randall's devlog videos. I really want to use this as well for embedded firmware development, but I was wondering if it you know of an add-on that you or someone has made to work just like Visual Studio's "Intellisense" feature?
this pls. im thinkin of switching from vsc but intellisense and codelens are amazing. being able to chase down the origin of a function from a reference and find the references from the origin in a little subwindow is super handy
While this isn't Intellisense, Ryan Fleury made a code peek tool that is a step in this direction. Check out his extensions, they're really really cool. Especially power code mode and plotting :)
Quite a weird business model to make your potential developers pay to add functionality and let the users get it for free. It's fine if it works for you, I guess.
I've been trying to run de demo versions on windows 7 and windows 8.1, they are not working in the sense that they are not even starting and I really want to try this tool. Am I missing something? Thank you!
I have an old laptop, maybe the graphics card is the problem, it is an old intel 965 but I have tried it on another laptop with an intel hd 3000 and I had the same result. If there's no support for these two, that's ok, thank you!
I had the same problem. Issue was in the non roman characters in the path for the 4coder directory. So workaround is to put 4coder directory itself to the path like: C:\Users\Public
I might be a little late on this, but if you are using RDP to connect to the PC, it does not support OpenGL and hence, 4Coder crashes. You can use Procmon to observe the calls and see when 4Coder crashes.
I'm trying out the demo right now and it seems to already have all the features that I would want in a code editor. What does the paid version have that the demo doesn't?
I love the idea, but after using the demo version for mac I am not sure about buying it.
As soon as I open a second source file the application crashes. Opening the first .c, .cpp or .h file works perfectly and any other type of file is fine. As soon as I try a second .c, .cpp or .h file, however, 4coder hangs and the beach ball of death spins endlessly.
Updated to 4.1.5, which fixed the multiple files issue, but now I can’t enter new lines :(. I have seen the issue on Github that says it’s fixed in 4.1.6, so I’ll just wait until then.
4.1 is $12 more than 4.0 was. I offer a $12 discount to everyone who bought 4.0 previously. If you don't see the discount email me at editor@4coder.net and I'll help to arrange it for you.
4.0.x worked fine but 4.1.3 demo won't run at all on Thinkpad X220. I tried both, x86 and x64 build, with no success. I suspect my trusty Intel HD 3000 is not supported anymore. Can you confirm, Allen?
It's possible, the graphics backend was updated a little. It works in a lot of places though. You can submit more information about your driver and the exact results you get from running 4coder at https://github.com/4coder-editor/4coder/issues
Hi, I'm trying to buy 4Coder but I'm not allowed since my billing address does not match my location which is strange consider that I have not even reached the actual page for paying. My billing address is in deed correct and the location (whatever they mean with this) I'm not sure what they are seeing since and I'm not behind any VPN.
I have tried to contact itch.io through mail and Twitter but with no luck. Do you have other means of paying or known workaround for this problem?
This is the message I'm greeted with regardless if choosing to pay with card or with PayPal:
"Confirm payment
Sorry, we can't accept your purchase at this time due to the updated 2015 VAT regulations. Your billing address does not match your purchase location (EE)."
I really want to love 4coder, but the idea of having to go in and re-customize everything to match my current Emacs setup is a huge turnoff, especially for basic things like the keybinds. Is there any plan to eventually include a preset that closely matches Emacs' default keybindings in the future?
People usually tend to change the default Emacs key bindings to fit their needs. So I don't think that is even useful, as I dislike Emacs default key bindings.
May be you and Allen have a different opinion.
Anyway, back in summer I tried to fit 4coder custom layer with some Emacs default bindings I am used to, and some with my own key customization.
These are the Emacs default ones I use: Movement: C-p C-n C-f C-b C-a C-e Deletion: C-d M-d C-k Search: C-s
And these ones of my own taste: (In parenthesis, the original Emacs binding) Movement: M-p M-n M-f M-b M-g (M-g g) Save: C-S-s (C-x C-s) Font size: C-= & C-- (like C-x C-= and +/-) Buffers & windows: C-w (C-x k) C-<tab> (C-x o) M-2 (C-x 2) M-3 (C-x 3) M-0 (C-x 0)
The custom layer is in a github repo, though not sure if it would be worthy for you. It is also based on 4coder beta 4.0.30 super.
Why couldn't I change the theme of 4coder on Windows 10 (using demo)? I was using the older version on Linux and could change the theme.
Edit: From https://github.com/4coder-editor/4coder/issues/101, I read I need the super version to fix this. I am going to buy it anyway (wanted to wait for Linux build). I guess this purchase includes all 4.x versions?
It should work if: 1. The theme is in the theme folder 2. You use the exact name of the file before the ".4coder" as your theme 3. 4coder actually finds and loads the config file - which you can confirm by looking at the messages buffer and seeing what it loaded for default_theme_name? If you confirm that all of those are true but it's still not working please make an issue on https://github.com/4coder-editor/4coder/issues
Using vim on Windows is not convenient because my setup is not cross-platorm and terminals on windows are very slow. 4coder is something new and I'm happy to support it's development.
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Hi 4Coder!! I learned of your editor from watching Tom Randall's devlog videos. I really want to use this as well for embedded firmware development, but I was wondering if it you know of an add-on that you or someone has made to work just like Visual Studio's "Intellisense" feature?
this pls. im thinkin of switching from vsc but intellisense and codelens are amazing. being able to chase down the origin of a function from a reference and find the references from the origin in a little subwindow is super handy
While this isn't Intellisense, Ryan Fleury made a code peek tool that is a step in this direction. Check out his extensions, they're really really cool. Especially power code mode and plotting :)
https://github.com/ryanfleury/4coder_fleury
this is sick
fleury has his hand in alot of projects, its really cool how much this guy does
Quite a weird business model to make your potential developers pay to add functionality and let the users get it for free. It's fine if it works for you, I guess.
I disagree. $24 is not that much money and 4Coder put a lot of time into making this tool. He has every right to charge as much as he wants
I was not talking about the prize nor the time put in it nor the rights that he has to do whatever he wants. Just curious about the business model.
Edit: I've just noticed that I wrote "Quit" instead of "Quite" in the original comment. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
That's fair! It is a little strange. I can't imagine he makes much from this, but I hope he does (I'd love to see further development)
Hello is the project discontinued?
I'd like to know as well!
Yes
I am taking a break from it right now but I intend to continue builds later this year.
thanks for the reply!
I am stoked to see what you come up with!
I've been trying to run de demo versions on windows 7 and windows 8.1, they are not working in the sense that they are not even starting and I really want to try this tool. Am I missing something? Thank you!
You aren't doing anything wwrong that I can see, it should work. Email me at editor@4coder.net and we can try to figure it out.
I have an old laptop, maybe the graphics card is the problem, it is an old intel 965 but I have tried it on another laptop with an intel hd 3000 and I had the same result. If there's no support for these two, that's ok, thank you!
I am having this same issue on Windows 10
I have same problem
I had the same problem. Issue was in the non roman characters in the path for the 4coder directory. So workaround is to put 4coder directory itself to the path like: C:\Users\Public
Thanks for great editor!
I might be a little late on this, but if you are using RDP to connect to the PC, it does not support OpenGL and hence, 4Coder crashes. You can use Procmon to observe the calls and see when 4Coder crashes.
Yes, in fact this will be the primary purpose for the next version when it is ready.
I'm trying out the demo right now and it seems to already have all the features that I would want in a code editor. What does the paid version have that the demo doesn't?
It comes with the C++ source that you need to build customizations.
can i use 4coder with pygame and if so how do i do that?
I don't know, but 4coder is pretty poor for editing python files in the current version. Extended language support is coming soon though.
I just upgraded to 4.1.5 and now 'undo' does not work anymore with control-z...
Somehow the fact that I use a qwertz keyboard messes it up. Is there a way I can change undo to use control-z?
I think unfortunatly there is no workaround. I made a bug report and Allen will fix it: https://github.com/4coder-editor/4coder/issues/235
Ah, thanks for the reply!
4.1.6 just came out and this is fixed!
Nice work!
I love the idea, but after using the demo version for mac I am not sure about buying it.
As soon as I open a second source file the application crashes. Opening the first .c, .cpp or .h file works perfectly and any other type of file is fine. As soon as I try a second .c, .cpp or .h file, however, 4coder hangs and the beach ball of death spins endlessly.
Thanks
Yes, same problem here.
Update: now working fine with latest version, thanks!
Updated to 4.1.5, which fixed the multiple files issue, but now I can’t enter new lines :(. I have seen the issue on Github that says it’s fixed in 4.1.6, so I’ll just wait until then.
Thanks
For someone that already owns 4coder 4.0, I need to buy version 4.1 in order to upgrade?
4.1 is $12 more than 4.0 was. I offer a $12 discount to everyone who bought 4.0 previously. If you don't see the discount email me at editor@4coder.net and I'll help to arrange it for you.
Thanks for Linux support! Great!
Yes, Thank you!! I've been running it in wine for a while and it's been a hack :)
4.0.x worked fine but 4.1.3 demo won't run at all on Thinkpad X220. I tried both, x86 and x64 build, with no success. I suspect my trusty Intel HD 3000 is not supported anymore. Can you confirm, Allen?
It's possible, the graphics backend was updated a little. It works in a lot of places though. You can submit more information about your driver and the exact results you get from running 4coder at https://github.com/4coder-editor/4coder/issues
Hi, I'm trying to buy 4Coder but I'm not allowed since my billing address does not match my location which is strange consider that I have not even reached the actual page for paying. My billing address is in deed correct and the location (whatever they mean with this) I'm not sure what they are seeing since and I'm not behind any VPN.
I have tried to contact itch.io through mail and Twitter but with no luck. Do you have other means of paying or known workaround for this problem?
This is the message I'm greeted with regardless if choosing to pay with card or with PayPal:
"Confirm payment
Sorry, we can't accept your purchase at this time due to the updated 2015 VAT regulations. Your billing address does not match your purchase location (EE)."
I can buy it for you if you paypal me, random internet stranger!
You are to kind =) I worked around it by picking another country. Thanks anyway!
Hi, I'm interested on buy 4coder and use it on Linux but I cannot see a demo for Linux. I was wondering maybe full version has a Linux version ?
The Linux port is still being developed. As soon as it's ready there will be a demo and full version.
If I should buy it now, will I be able to download the linux version as soon as it is available?
Oh and by the way, great job
Yes you would be able to download the Linux version right away.
I really want to love 4coder, but the idea of having to go in and re-customize everything to match my current Emacs setup is a huge turnoff, especially for basic things like the keybinds. Is there any plan to eventually include a preset that closely matches Emacs' default keybindings in the future?
Yes someday. I'm planning to do this for Vim first though, as that's a much more highly requested emulation.
Thanks for the reply! Glad to hear it's not out of the question.
Hi @sonictk.
Your question was asked in 4coder handmade network forum some time ago:
https://4coder.handmade.network/forums/t/1591-emacs_like_config
People usually tend to change the default Emacs key bindings to fit their needs. So I don't think that is even useful, as I dislike Emacs default key bindings.
May be you and Allen have a different opinion.
Anyway, back in summer I tried to fit 4coder custom layer with some Emacs default bindings I am used to, and some with my own key customization.
These are the Emacs default ones I use:
Movement: C-p C-n C-f C-b C-a C-e
Deletion: C-d M-d C-k
Search: C-s
And these ones of my own taste:
(In parenthesis, the original Emacs binding)
Movement: M-p M-n M-f M-b M-g (M-g g)
Save: C-S-s (C-x C-s)
Font size: C-= & C-- (like C-x C-= and +/-)
Buffers & windows:
C-w (C-x k)
C-<tab> (C-x o)
M-2 (C-x 2)
M-3 (C-x 3)
M-0 (C-x 0)
The custom layer is in a github repo, though not sure if it would be worthy for you. It is also based on 4coder beta 4.0.30 super.
Regards.
Why couldn't I change the theme of 4coder on Windows 10 (using demo)? I was using the older version on Linux and could change the theme.
Edit: From https://github.com/4coder-editor/4coder/issues/101, I read I need the super version to fix this. I am going to buy it anyway (wanted to wait for Linux build). I guess this purchase includes all 4.x versions?
Yes purchasing 4.1.x gets all 4.1.x releases (4.0.x had 30 releases and lasted about four years, to give you an idea of how it adds up).
Also the theme changing bug is fixed in 4.1.1.
default theme still does not change
It should work if:
1. The theme is in the theme folder
2. You use the exact name of the file before the ".4coder" as your theme
3. 4coder actually finds and loads the config file - which you can confirm by looking at the messages buffer and seeing what it loaded for default_theme_name?
If you confirm that all of those are true but it's still not working please make an issue on https://github.com/4coder-editor/4coder/issues
what's the ETA of Mac and Linux versions ?
Hopefully early 2020. Work has already begun on these.
Using vim on Windows is not convenient because my setup is not cross-platorm and terminals on windows are very slow. 4coder is something new and I'm happy to support it's development.
As soon as the linux version is available, my money is available to you! ;D
Best present I've got this week by far!
This release is my highlight of the week. Thank you very much. You are making my world a little bit better.